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Friday, July 14, 2006

SEEM Edit Guide

SEEM Edit Guide
for Motorola P2K mobile phone
This guide is made to answer questions, such as "How to seem edit?", "What is SEEM edit?", etc.

SEEM? I don't know why it called SEEM. In my words, SEEM is the memory area in the P2K phone that works as parameter table or data storage. With different parameters, the phone can behave differently, have different options, enable/disable some features, etc. SEEM is also used to store user data, such as SMS, Databook entries, phone information, call history, etc. There are many SEEMs and they are identified by SEEM ID. With P2K software, like P2K Tools, you can read the SEEM from the phone and update the SEEM back to phone. The SEEM is represented in HEX format in the SEEM editor. There are many customized SEEM edit software out there, but you can always Hex edit the SEEM file, when you fully understand how the SEEMs work.

The words you need to understand:

SEEM or SEEM ID: the id that identifies a particular SEEM, such as 0032-0001 and 004a-0001. The first 4 digit is the SEEM number, while the second 4 digit is the record. One SEEM number can have multiple records.

Offset: the address of the byte in the SEEM. one byte has 8 bits.

Bit: the 0-7 bits in the byte. usually each bit represents an option. we enable or disable the option by turning on or off the bit. "on" means "tick the bit" while "off" is "uncheck the bit".

Once you understand the above, doing seem edit is pretty easy. You need a SEEM editor software (P2K tools, Motokit, Moto4Lin and many others). Let's do it by examples. In example 1, we will edit an offset in the SEEM. In example 2, we will write a seem file to the phone. (It is recommended that you always save the SEEM to a SEEM file in your PC/Mac, before writing the SEEM to the phone.)

Example 1: edit seem

In this example, we want to enable usb charging, and we know that the seem for usb charging option is "SEEM 004a_0001 offset 0207 bit 0: (1 enable, 0 disable)". You can read [v360 seem list] to find out the seems for other options/functions.

Now let's start.

Here is a screenshot: [Screeshot of P2K Tools]

1. open p2k tools, click seem edit icon
2. in the Seem (num/rec) box, enter 004a and 0001, then click "load from phone"
3. find offset 0207, which is row 200 and column 07
4. select the offset, then enter "01" or uncheck 1-7 bits and check 0 bit using bit operations. (Hex value 01 represents binary value 00000001, FF will be 11111111. You can either update the hex value or update the bits. It is your choice. Sometimes bit operations is not possible, then you have to do Hex edit. For those SEEMs that store user data, you can only Hex edit it.)
5. click "save to phone" and restart the phone. It is done.

Example 2: upload seem file

In this example, we want to upload the 005B-0001 seem file to the phone. Here are the steps:

1. open p2k tools, click seem edit icon
2. in the Seem (num/rec) box, enter 005b and 0001, then click "load from file"
3. select the seem file and load it
4. click "save to phone" and restart the phone. It is done.

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43 comments:

10:27 AM, July 17, 2006 eclipzx317 said...

I don't think im posting in the right area but I have no idea where to put "general questions." Is their any way to allow the v360 to play songs that have a higher bitrate then 128 kbps?

10:58 AM, July 17, 2006 Yuet said...

I think v360 can play mp3 with bitrate up to 192 kbps. What's your problem? for general questions, you can post in the "questions & answers" post.

6:14 PM, July 21, 2006 Seàn said...

Thanks again for another great post Yuet. This helped build an info bridge across some of the gaps in my understanding about this stuff.

Sidenote: I'm glad to know someone else has no idea where the term "SEEM" comes from too...

1:13 AM, July 28, 2006 Anonymous said...

Hey Mr. Yuet,

How do I change the right Camera button back into a Camera button?

I think it is set for voice dial now.

Later

9:28 AM, July 28, 2006 Yuet said...

Hi, read [v360 key map] to find out.

10:55 AM, August 14, 2006 Anonymous said...

why when i click on the offset the value changes?
for example...
when im looking for a X offset and i localize it on the p2ktools and i see his value "01"... and when i clic, to change it, it changes automatically to "00" (only by clicking on the offset).... why this happens?

11:03 AM, August 14, 2006 Guilherme said...

i want to set SEEM 005B-001 Offset 16 to have 2 functions:
when flip closed i want "smart key"
when flip opened: "camera button"
it is possible?

9:04 PM, August 14, 2006 Yuet said...

There could be a bug in P2Ktools, but you can click on the offset, update the value, then save it to phone. it works. After you save to phone, you can click "read from phone" again to verify if the offset is update.

Guilherme, I don't think it is possible.

2:16 AM, August 16, 2006 brettstar said...

Howdy Yuet. One thing I really liked about my new V360 before I flashed your MP was how it sounded. After the flash I noticed that the earpiece and mic had a very different sound. I'm wondering if you could inform me how to get the phone's gain/sound back to the basic factory setting. Is this done in the gain_table.bin or is it a seem edit? Please advise when you have a free moment.

Many Thanks! B*

10:37 AM, August 16, 2006 Yuet said...

brettstar, run java "fileChanger", then apply the file "gain_moto". reboot the phone. That should be the factory setting.

11:57 AM, August 16, 2006 brettstar said...

Thanks Yuet! Man, you're a friggin' mad genius!!! Can't believe you've set this up so you can can actually make these system type changes from within the Phone. Many thanks for all the help and groovy insight into the Moto hacking world.

12:27 AM, August 18, 2006 Anonymous said...

I like your MP for L7. But I have a little probolem: when I hit menu+* to lock the keypad, my phone shuts off and I can only restart it after removing the battery. How can I fix this? THANKS a lot man!

2:12 PM, August 18, 2006 Yuet said...

hi, I don't have a L7, so I am not sure what happened. In V360, press "menu + *" again will light up the display again. Have you tried. the lock seems to shut off the phone, but it actually only shut off display and keypad. try press "menu+*" again.

2:29 AM, August 23, 2006 sayeds said...

hey Yuet.

Just thought I'd let you know that pipspot is not allowing us to access the site. its saying that it is forbidden. I've tried from different pc's, still the same problem.
I'm talking about yuet.pipspot.com
mebbe you should check it out.

11:22 PM, August 23, 2006 Yuet said...

sayeds, I know that site is down. The folder is disabled by the host, because of over usage. The folder was provided by Pip to me for free. He paid for it. I feel sorry for him. I don't know when or will it be up again. I wish somebody else will give me some space with high-speed connection to host my files. :) I can't afford to pay for file hosting, as everything I provide here is free.

10:21 AM, September 12, 2006 Anonymous said...

hello.. how do I edit the external display of my V360. I figured out how to edit the 0061_001 seem to read my directed file (/a/mobile/helio.gif) but when i do that, the outside display reads the actual text and not as a path. Is there a way to change this? Ive heard you can edit 004a_001 offset 27, but i havent had any luck.

12:03 PM, September 12, 2006 Yuet said...

the seems can be found in my seem handbook.
You have to edit the 004a seem.

11:17 AM, September 15, 2006 brettstar said...

I'm looking to have control of the sounds that IM/AIM uses. On a T-mobile US phone, when in the Ring Styles menu, one can select 'AIM' in the ring style 'Detail' menu and choose a custom ring/sound. My V360 with your MP v1.7 does not have an option for choosing custom sounds for IM/AIM - it defaults to the 'Classic' ring which is very loud and not very Instant Messaging friendly. I'm wondering if there is a seem or hex edit that would change the default ring or, better yet, enable an IM/AIM menu in the Ring Styles 'Ring Detail' menu. Thanks for you help!

6:10 PM, September 16, 2006 Yuet said...

I guess that function is custom-made for t-mobile.

4:24 PM, October 01, 2006 Anonymous said...

hi yuet its amar here,plz yuet u tell me howcan i gaintable in my L7 andalso tell me i have a pbl date coz wen i changed my date in intial setup it has been changed but wen i set autoupdate it show on my desktop of mobile next month date wat can i do.

4:28 PM, October 01, 2006 Anonymous said...

yuet the changes which u done in ur new MP is good for L7.and also tell me. how can i put new gaintable in ur file manager where u put yuet gain table.louder and etc etc .........

5:41 PM, October 03, 2006 Yuet said...

amar, I am not quite sure about the autoupdate problem yet.

for gaintable in filechanger, name your file starting with gain_. For exampe, gain_test.bin, then put it into /a/mobile/

5:09 PM, December 19, 2006 Anonymous said...

Hey Yuet,

I've been looking forever to find out how to expand video size to put movies or record for a longer time on my v360. I just got this phone.

I had found a site explaining in detail how to do it, but can't find it anymore!

Also, I was wondering if there was a way to unlock this phone without actual hardware removal.

Quick question; what's the difference between software and bootloader? Don't they both act the same way? You see, for warranty purposes, I can't change the software but can change the bootloader...

Thanks in advance!

8:00 PM, December 19, 2006 Yuet said...

to expand video size, you can do a seem edit, but it also depends on the firmware capability. So far only ABR/ACR/AER have the capability of recording longer than 1:30. the seem can be found in this post. If your firmware is not one of those, you may need to flash to a new firmware, try my YuetMod v1.8.

At this moment, this phone can only be unlocked with testpoint.

bootloader is like BIOS of your pc, while firmware is the OS. You void your warranty if you change any of them.

7:24 AM, December 20, 2006 Anonymous said...

Hey Yuet,

Unfortunately, that's not what I wanted to hear. Hey, you can't win'em all!

Byt he way, I found this site;
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/motorola-v360-unlock.htm

are they for real? Can they really unlock my v360 remotely via cable?

I also wanted to know how do I find out if my phone is ABR/ACR/AER? Also if it is one of those, can I still edit the seem to have longer vid? BTW, I looked in the link you posted and I don't understand much in that...

Also, I really liked your skins and I think I wrote elsewhere asking you how to change the skins... But I can't find my other post! So if you could explain to me, I would appreciate it.

I know, I am asking plenty of newbie qwuestions. But that's just what I am... A newbie!

Phil

2:09 PM, December 20, 2006 Yuet said...

phil, I tried those remote unlocking service myself, but it was not working. I am not sure whether there's any improvement to their software now.

go to "setting - phone status - other info - s/w version" to check firmware version.

if you are new to modding, you may want to spend some time reading my guides.

my reply about your skin question is here.

1:37 AM, December 21, 2006 Anonymous said...

Thanks Yuet,

I appreciate the help. Now my s/w version is R4513_G_08.87.86R . I have no idea what that means and if this falls in the A?R category.

My service provider is Rogers.

Phil

9:57 AM, December 21, 2006 Yuet said...

your firmware is 86R, not one of the A?R.

5:04 AM, December 31, 2006 Bawked said...

I found a tool that can unlock many phones via usb, currently you can use it 30 days for free.
It's http://www.got.bz/ you need to email the address to get an account.
Tested working on my V360

10:51 AM, December 31, 2006 Yuet said...

Bawked, thanks for the info. that's great news.

4:16 AM, January 17, 2007 Anonymous said...

Caller ID my phone only +504 save in the phonebook, what SEEM change it's. Gracias

4:22 AM, January 17, 2007 Anonymous said...

have what save +504-940-0000 for what my Caller ID Function and show tha name of phone book, sorry no speak spanish.

7:19 PM, January 26, 2007 Anonymous said...

hey yuet..
b4 this i had post some question but i don`t know where to find them back..
actually i don`t understand how to read offset to edit SEEM..when i read your guidelines you said that offset 0207 is row 200 and column 07?why not just row 02 and column 07?how about offset 141,8F and etc?

11:52 PM, January 26, 2007 Yuet said...

you must go back to the post where you left your comment. your question answered here, and here.

12:25 AM, January 27, 2007 Yuet said...

Gracias, (I thought I have replied your question, but seems my reply was not posted.) regarding the caller id problem, there's a seem edit. look for it under general setting in this post.

4:01 AM, March 04, 2007 Joey1979 said...

I was with you until, "FF will be 11111111". I don't understand what you mean by that by looking at the screenshot.

MY S/W VERSION - R4513_G_08.B7.86R

Is this still true today:
"to expand video size, you can do a seem edit, but it also depends on the firmware capability. So far only ABR/ACR/AER have the capability of recording longer than 1:30."

3:27 PM, March 04, 2007 Yuet said...

joey, FF is the Hex value and 11111111 is the binary value. They are the same. each offset has 8 bits, but it is shown as Hex value in HexEditor. Some seem editor has the "bit manipulation" function which convert Hex value into 0-7 bits, so you only need to check or uncheck the bits.

11:02 PM, March 14, 2007 Anonymous said...

hey Yuet! Great work on ur mods, i hav a question to ask, is it possible to allow java apps on a V360 phone to access the photos, etc on the phone and also can the apps also have access to multimedia parts of the phone like the camera 'n stuff?

11:04 AM, March 15, 2007 Yuet said...

yes, possible. the java system in V360 can support it.

8:46 PM, March 15, 2007 Anonymous said...

so Yuet, which offset do i need to change to make the phone allow java apps to use multimedia components and access the storage device???

11:12 PM, March 15, 2007 Yuet said...

it is not by seem edit. you should use motomidman to install java apps, and grant the permission for them to access phone file and camera..

6:15 PM, August 04, 2007 Marko said...

ey yuet you'r the best can you explain how to change swith sotrage device seem!!!!please help me

1:58 PM, August 05, 2007 Yuet said...

marko,

option to switch storage device (discovered by Yuet)
SEEM 0032-0001 offset 9F bit 3:
on = switch to phone memory/memory card directly in list, java apps will be installed in card when "install new apps"
off = press menu key to see "switch storage device" option, will prompt to select storage device when "install new apps"

1. open p2k tools, click seem edit icon
2. in the Seem (num/rec) box, enter 0032 and 0001, then click "load from phone"
3. find offset 9F, which is row 90 and column 0F
4. select the offset, then check/uncheck bit 3 using bit operations.
5. click "save to phone" and restart the phone. It is done.


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